As Creative promised, here's the demonstration of Google Android running on a ZMS-05 processing chip from Zii Labs (ironically the video isn't available in HD): There were a few applications that were taking advantage of the chip, including an HD media player capable of playing video at 720P, as well as the ability to output that HD feed to a larger TV. I think the combination of an open-source platform like Android, and Creative's seemingly powerful chip is definitely promising. Hopefully Creative can attract some clients with these kinds of demos. If that happens then we'll see mobile phones, netbooks, and media players using a Zii chip. Zii Labs
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| ramakandra
Feb 16 (2009) 10:49AM ![]() | ...its beginning to look a lot like christmas... ...zii's in every store... |
| Zensen
Feb 16 (2009) 11:01AM ![]() | for a sec i thought there was something wrong with my sound until the video played. looks good. anyways, would have been good to see a FPS during that film clip but it looked smooth so i guess its not that important and the tv out. joy ![]() |
| PowerTorsk
Feb 16 (2009) 11:21AM | I can't believe that worked so smoothly. Someone HAS to be impressed by that. Period. |
| Varuna
Feb 16 (2009) 11:50AM | seriously, awesome! great potential!!! YOU KNOW WHAT WE WANT Creative! I hope this goes real good ! |
| SDash
Feb 16 (2009) 12:20PM | i think, the bad news is that nvidia is about to release products, but, the good news is that with how creative is, we'll see some great competition keep up the good work ZiiLabs! |
| llc00ljd
Feb 16 (2009) 07:59PM | So, exactly what is it doing and why is it special? Not trying to be smart. I just don't know haha. |
| ramakandra
Feb 16 (2009) 10:21PM ![]() | ...its rendering HD on a portable device... ...on an operating system not of creatives own design... ...proving its flexibility to be implemented in all sorts of devices... |
| zip22
Feb 16 (2009) 11:32PM | that's not a portable device, its a development platform. [ edited Feb 16 (2009) 11:32PM ] |
| Zensen
Feb 17 (2009) 12:28AM ![]() | if you want to get fussy zip... but google android is an os for mobile devices so rama is still right about its flexibility. |
| zip22
Feb 17 (2009) 10:11AM |
| omarceja_s
Feb 17 (2009) 10:14AM | well, just imagine the screen is the device and there you go. Android is and OS for mobile devices as Zensen said, therefore doesn't matter if you use a dev platform to demonstrate it. the point is that it works with android and because of that the chip could be used in mobiles. |
| zip22
Feb 17 (2009) 11:04AM | everything works with android. its open source, so you can run it on anything if you put some work into it. [Linky] |
| SDash
Feb 17 (2009) 11:22AM | development platforms can easily be made into smaller portable devices. Creative will always make one. Just remember that we always need the competition to bring down the prices and increase the quality. |
| ramakandra
Feb 17 (2009) 11:34AM ![]() | ...engadget ran a courtesy story about this... ...and then later released a video about the tegra chip doing the same thing... ...and its 'incredible'... ...i commented as such on their site... |
| zip22
Feb 17 (2009) 11:40AM | the zii was running a 720p video on a development platform. The tegra was running a 1080p video on a prototype device and then playing a 720p video game. they are certainly not the same thing. [ edited Feb 17 (2009) 11:45AM ] |
| SDash
Feb 17 (2009) 12:04PM | It's only a matter of time. They only came up with 720p for the event, but at CES they showcased the chip running 1080p. The capabilities are practically the same. [ edited Feb 17 (2009) 12:05PM ] |
| zip22
Feb 17 (2009) 01:37PM | maybe, but nvidia is much further along in the product cycle. They have partners with devices on the way. |
| ssjmichael
Feb 17 (2009) 01:50PM ![]() | I think Nvidia's roadmap is much further along than Creative's. Even if the Zii was better than the Integra, companies will still go with Nvidia because of its brand power. It's also difficult of course to do much of anything when you're constantly losing money and looking like a company on its last legs. It's just too risky an investment for other companies to make. Hopefully (a word I use a lot) this demo and others like it will get some comapnies to give them a chance. [ edited Feb 17 (2009) 01:59PM ] |
| omarceja_s
Feb 17 (2009) 02:03PM | that's exactly the problem, nvidia has won some ground already. Creative is in Barcelona to showcase the capabilities of zii with HD in Android, something they claimed to be pioneers at. and Nvidia comes with something pretty similar at the same time. If I were a company I might consider buying tegra instead of zii because of the background of Nvidia and their reputation. and the prototype they have on display, at least to me, looks a bit more fluid and seems to do the same thing. To the look of the customer as long as the product does what it's advertize and does it well, it doesn't really matter if it runs smoothly because of a tegra or a zii chip or any other for that matter. If zii is really as power efficient as they say, then creative should give at least an approximation on how much time a device would be able perform without running out of juice. Having prototypes on display is a better way to impress than just a dev kit. Again, nvidia has this simple device doing some really nice 3D stuff and they claim that it would be able to run for 10 hours. if creative can better that number they must advertise it somehow along with any other capability the chip may have over tegra and others so that companies feel more attracted to zii. so far the only partner on board that seems big enough to give the chio good use and recognition is MSI. Creative must look for more companies to get involved, otherwise this will be a failure even if it's a great chip. |
| llc00ljd
Feb 17 (2009) 03:07PM | I'm lost so I'll assume this product just isn't for me. |
| Caustic Fox
Feb 17 (2009) 06:35PM | Wow... imagine playing Crysis on the Android. Or, have true Xi-Fi hardware on the next ZEN. I'm betting that nVIDIA's Integra chip will be implemented in the upcoming Apple\Microsoft... hell even the next Sony walkman players. |
| Zensen
Feb 18 (2009) 12:06AM ![]() | to be fair to creative. Nvidia have been touting their baby for almost a year.. they've now got a portable prototype at a trade show unlike creative which is connected to a screen from an electronic board using android. win for them I guess. Im surprised that nvidia doesn't have a huge heat sink joined to the back of that portable device. So will the zii chip be cheaper to produce, I dont know but if creative can live up to their pr videos and do the same and perhaps more than the tegra, it will get a 2nd look. As far as I'm concerned when I bought my ZVM I didn't care what chipset was in there. It did what it said it could. Now if the Zii chip can do what it can deliver for companies out there at a competitive price then the tegra chip has competition. [ edited Feb 18 (2009) 01:37AM ] |
| moorey
Feb 19 (2009) 10:21PM | I have a funny feeling that Crysis wont be running on anything less then Windows. |
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