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| csgunner17
Jul 10 (2008) 03:26PM  | nice sucks that the 8g is wifi-less. thats the one i was thinking of getting. but overall its still a good player. i dont think ill buy considering 8g is wifi-less but still a good player hope creative makes a come back |
| Bosconias
Jul 10 (2008) 03:29PM  | How are you supposed to use MSN and Yahoo on that small of a screen? |
| Wilfried
Jul 10 (2008) 03:58PM  | oow this is verry nice looks verry nice I'm gonna buy it, I'm gonna buy it calling to my store right now;) ty creative, adding the instant messaging and xfi was an awesome move for every creative fan, this is just awesome C ya guys |
| damio
Jul 10 (2008) 07:06PM | Finally an OFFICIAL X-Fi player creative really needed one but it makes me think they probably rushed it like the zen (same size same design [except for the buttons and speaker]) |
| ltTHREE
Jul 10 (2008) 08:33PM  | i like the dock. |
| commandercool
Jul 10 (2008) 10:07PM | msn and windows im but no aim? |
| ssjmichael
Jul 10 (2008) 10:25PM  | MSN is better suited globally than AIM is. |
| ramakandra
Jul 10 (2008) 10:46PM  | ...nothing like a good product launch to excite the senses... |
| Zensen
Jul 10 (2008) 11:10PM  | I'm sure it doesn't differ greatly than their previous line-up - the ZEN and I'm sure many of you probably thought it should have been there in the first place. It may not be the ground shaker that we'd be hoping for but it certainly is a great player. I can think of another company that relies more so on coolness and hype that hasn't differed greatly from each generation. Other than their stand out touch, that company hasn't really done much to make me want to buy their players. But hey at least I can count on them drowning me in another catchy song silhouette advert!!!!!@#$ Can't wait to see what happens in the next 6 months when i'm looking to get myself a new player when i go travelling. As i'm hoping this will be only one of many in this range of x-fi related zen products. On another note, would love to see product images of yahoo and msn in use and I know it's a gimmick but built in speakers is cool when use wisely of course! [ edited Jul 10 (2008) 11:17PM ] |
| kickenchicken
Jul 10 (2008) 11:30PM  | will we be able to choose the intensity of the X-Fi enhancements. |
| demoport
Jul 11 (2008) 12:54AM  | I wonder how they came up with such a genius upgrade... I think it went something like this: "OK so lets upgrade the ZEN and make it AWESOME!" "Yeah alright!" "Alright so how about adding our totally awesome X-FI to it and make it super cool???" "That is awesome yeah!" "We could even add a useless WIFI to the mix with MSN and Yahoo to it!" "THAT WILL PWN SO HARD" "Lets leave everything else the same though, the screen is HUMONGOUS already I think we would overwhelm people with anything bigger than 2.5 inches" "OMG I totally agree" ....................................................................... |
| avenger7875
Jul 11 (2008) 01:16AM | OOOH! A speaker! Seriously, Creative, you couldn't give us a touch screen? Or lossless support? Sure, X-Fi is great, but how much am I gonna need to drop on earbuds before I notice a difference from the great-sounding original ZEN? Is there really that much of an improvement from my near-lossless 192kbps WMA's? And I need to spend an extra $100 (probably more) to get these improvements. And that version doesn't have WiFi. So...A $100 included speaker is basically it. Sorry for the rant, but C'mon, can't we at least get something worthwhile for switching? [ edited Jul 11 (2008) 01:18AM ] |
| commandercool
Jul 11 (2008) 01:21AM | ^i agree the touchscreen wouldve been sweet |
| avenger7875
Jul 11 (2008) 01:32AM | So... How long do you think it'll be before it shows up in my local walmart so I can be slowly worn down by its gorgeous looks and great sound quality and eventually get it? And how does it dock with these new speakers? It looks connected through the bottom, but the only thing there is the speaker. Do you think it uses some microphone/speaker system? or does it have a mini usb dock? if it uses mini usb, do you think Creative will release a firmware update so I can use my ZEN with it? [ edited Jul 11 (2008) 01:36AM ] |
| jay
Jul 11 (2008) 01:37AM | i've been a committed Creative mp3 player user for more than 5 years now, going from the Zen Nomad to the ZVM30gb could be considered a big step - but these new players are a whole load of nothing. they're not dock compatible with my Z500 or 600 sound systems, 32gb storage is not an improvement, and in no way do i need to access msn chat from my mp3 player... Creative have stagnated, if i hadn't already invested in the 2 (expensive) sound systems then i'd probably be an ipod touch user by now... but having said all that, if they up the storage level to 60 gig and once i try the player out i may say to hell with Apple, i'm still a Creative guy!!! come on Creative you can do better than this... |
| Igottago
Jul 11 (2008) 01:41AM | There's a lot of appeal to this device...but for every good feature there is a headscratcher as well...instant messaging? Built in speaker? I would trade both those for full SD integration...then you'd have a player on your hands. |
| avenger7875
Jul 11 (2008) 01:49AM | I genuinely wonder if the X-Fi will boost the sound quality of my songs that much. I don't need WiFi if it's only for IM. A speaker could be useful, but there really don't seem to be any further improvements. What I want is a ZEN with a touch screen (at least 2.75 in), full SD integration, X-Fi (maybe), 64GB capacity, FLAC support, and possibly Stereo Bluetooth. If creative built one of those, I would be the first in line! |
| rst
Jul 11 (2008) 02:54AM |
| ssjmichael
Jul 11 (2008) 04:01AM | avenger7875, I'm assuming the dock connector is on the right side to connect with the USB port there. It would make sense if they made it compatible with the original ZEN but I don't think that'll happen. |
| fraorlando
Jul 11 (2008) 05:04AM | For a mp3 player the screen is just large enough, and with xi-fi,this is just perfect for my needs. Also its great that it has NO touchscreen, for touchscreens cannot be as pracical as buttons - this one has 9 directionbuttons, i can imagine that i can use the player with a thumb without looking at it - which is important - and impossible with these over-hyped touchscreens. |
| Danneh
Jul 11 (2008) 09:13AM  | I want to see that advert on TELEVISION! If they advertise this, i expect so see a higher sales rate, but I really wanted something else wit hthat wifi, browsing! :[ Daniel |
| HipHopScribe
Jul 11 (2008) 09:21AM  | There's only so much you can do with any player without looking at the buttons, it's possible for a player to have a touchscreen and enough external buttons to accomplish those tasks, like the Cowon D2. The advantage of a touchscreen is flexibility, you can cover a wide variety of possible tasks with on-screen controls that would be complicated, or not possible, without a touchscreen. With a player like this, however, with limited functionality, and a relatively small screen, a touchscreen wouldn't offer much, it's pretty small for an touchscreen keyboard for chatting. If Creative had released the player some people thought they might, a real iPod Touch competitor, a touchscreen would be the way to go in my opinion, but with external button like the D2 for basic blind functions. Given what is in my opinion Creative's ineptitude over the past few years, I wasn't expect a Touch competitor however, this kind of slight upgrade, with a few gimmicky, but mostly useless features, pretty much met my expectations. [ edited Jul 11 (2008) 09:23AM ] |
| zabolots
Jul 11 (2008) 10:10AM | If they haven't managed to seamlessly blend the on-board storage with the expansion storage then this device is a total waste of time. |
| Dopamino
Jul 11 (2008) 10:52AM  | For the price, I think that this is a solid player. |
| avenger7875
Jul 11 (2008) 12:13PM | @ssjmichael It is, but it's in the middle, where the power/hold switch was on the Zen. Still, I wish they would make it compatible. Does anyone know if the Zen could dock through USB? |
| McNamara
Jul 11 (2008) 02:08PM  | You know something? I actually would've preferred to wait another couple of months from Creative to get a really good player out. This feels underwhelming to me. I can tell that it was rushed... messenger function w/o a QWERTY slideout? And seriously, a 2.5" at this point in the game? |
| 00ZEN
Jul 11 (2008) 02:38PM  | LOL still awaiting official US announcement...I am DEFINITELY getting one...it may not be the revolutionary touch screen that some of us have been hoping for but hey this is a big step into a bigger world |
| DaanRiver
Jul 11 (2008) 06:11PM  | what a corny ad.. |
| konechiwa
Jul 11 (2008) 10:06PM  | give me a touchscreen zen vision with x-fi and wifi and I will buy it. Coming from someone who owns an Lg Vu, Cowon A2 and a 16gig Apple iTouch. That's all it would take. |
| ramakandra
Jul 11 (2008) 11:13PM | ...that bring the player back to the basics... ...get that right... ...then build it up again from there... ...just you wait... |
| Cacophony
Jul 11 (2008) 11:55PM  | I don't need WiFi and never will. I am not sure about XFi but it is welcome. I do need bigger screen, more codecs, no video re-encoding, replaceable battery, correct SD integration. The docking station must have a remote to allow the control of sound volume & songs navigation. It must also double as alarm clock. If it is just an external speaker, I can use my current Logitech speakers which has a line in jack. Based on the features of the 2nd version of the ZEN player, where Creative implemented what user don't requested. I think I can exptrapolate the featureset of the ZEN v3: integrated flashlight, razor, thermometer and the ability to connect to an atomic clock via satellite to display the lunar calendar. Next to that, Creative management will wonder why they are losing market share to other brands. [ edited Jul 12 (2008) 12:00AM ] |
| SlimDan22
Jul 12 (2008) 12:06AM  | now when it says it plays divx and xvid doesnt it actually play the files or does it convert it before it transfers it to the playyerr? but im loving the wi-fi mostly because have a media server running on my computer and i stream stuff already |
| kiasukid
Jul 12 (2008) 04:17AM | I dislike touchscreen on most devices so I'm happy this isn't yet another touchscreen device. However, since I'm still happy with my Zen, I'm not likely to get the Zen X-fi even though it looks v cool to me. |
| ramakandra
Jul 12 (2008) 05:13AM | ...yes it doesd play divx and xvid... ...the file though, has to me the right dimensions... |
| crazzyxjoex
Jul 12 (2008) 02:10PM  | grrr! |
| 00ZEN
Jul 12 (2008) 02:32PM | This article should be updated with the Buy.com prices |
| nordloewelabs
Jul 12 (2008) 07:06PM  | "(...) Based on the features of the 2nd version of the ZEN player, where Creative implemented what user don't requested. I think I can exptrapolate the featureset of the ZEN v3: integrated flashlight, razor, thermometer and the ability to connect to an atomic clock via satellite to display the lunar calendar. (...)" @Cacophony: you nailed it, mate. they take away useful features like the playback of DivX and MPEG-1 files of any resolutions and add WiFi and IM.... furthermore, screen size remains the same and capacity too. i have an old Nomad NX 20Gb (way superior and cheaper than the iPod of its time) and a ZV:M 30Gb (also way superior and cheaper than the iPod of is time) and cannot help but think how underachieving Creative has become. they went from being DAP pioneers to Apple's b!tch in 5 years.... talk about bad management. @Big Brother: censorship doesnt help the cause. when i bought my 1st Creative player epiZENter didnt even dream to exist. i have the right to criticize a company that i have supported longer than many ppl here. censorship will only result in more half-baked releases and stronger consolidation of the Apple products. we want bigger screen, more codecs (no size restriction) and higher capacity....and we have been saying this for years! |
| nordloewelabs
Jul 12 (2008) 07:30PM | forgot to say.... i remember ppl complaining about dead batteries on iPods. my Nomad NX still works flawlessly.... and with its original replaceable battery -- despite being bought in 2003 and used daily! a product both edgy and robust! out of curiosity, can the iPod battery last 2 years if used daily? |
| SlimDan22
Jul 12 (2008) 08:26PM | I wonder why they couldnt get AOL Support for instant messaging??? |
| rich01
Jul 13 (2008) 06:54AM | Yesterday went to Creative to see the Zen X-FI Looks nice and the sound quality's top notch...Nothing can beat that!(LOL!) Recommend it for audiophiles. To say the truth, this is a winner. It doesn't need wifi, touchscreen or such... It just needs great sound to be perfect... What were mp3 players for in the past? -Music And Creative has done it. |
| Shareholder
Jul 13 (2008) 07:53AM | Pre-order available in Japan: http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/bestsellers/electronics/140474011/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_e_1_4 |
| kiasukid
Jul 13 (2008) 10:18AM | I went to Creative's store at Plaza Singapura to look at the Zen X-Fi today and it really does look very good. Sounds good too. I like the size of the player and it looks really good and yet weighs practically nothing. Personally, I don't care about the video playback codecs that much simply because I hardly use my Creative Zen to play video. I have my ZVW for that. Still, I must say the screen is gorgeous. The buttons are also easy to press and I actually like how it looks on the player. It matches my current Sony Ericcson phone too. =D Unfortunately, I couldn't test out the IM feature on the player as I wasn't able to log-on to the servers. But it seems like it's like SMSing on a cell phone which is fine for me as I'm quite good at SMSing, having done it for years and years and I actually prefer it to the phones that come with the keyboard type of messaging system. Unlike some people here, I do like speakers on my mp3 players and I do like the mic feature as I use it on a weekly basis to record my Japanese classes. I also still listen to radio. So I'm happy that the speakers were included and that my mic and radio features are still included on the player. And I'm really happy it isn't touchscreen. I really don't like touchscreens that much. Unless they are on an NDS and I can actually see the point of the touchscreen, I much rather my tactile buttons so that I can operate the player blind if I wanted to. I'm really tempted to buy one even though I'm really quite happy with my Zen right now. If only Creative had a trade-in programme, because I think if they did, I would probably get this player. |
| Shareholder
Jul 13 (2008) 11:21AM | It comes with SDHC slot unlike some who speculate wrongly that it is a microSD slot. |
| Shareholder
Jul 14 (2008) 10:59AM | Zen X-fi available at Amazon.com for pre-order. |
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