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| Varuna
Jun 29 (2008) 08:25PM  | Wohoo ! Hopefully Integration ( You still havent released this player Creative, Just Fix it !) Videos have to be a native Resolution ?? (hopefully not) Kind of Sad at Audio Support, Should have been more for the Audiophiles! and, one Question, Is this X-Fi Expand the same as CMSS 3D right? I'm hoping so! Me like Battery as well! [ edited Jun 29 (2008) 08:34PM ] |
| Kaze
Jun 29 (2008) 08:26PM | Looks decent, I'd be happy if the video doesn't need transcoding. |
| TearsOfFire
Jun 29 (2008) 08:27PM | It's alright I guess, now just need to wait for more details on pricing and whether its worth it |
| The DarkSide
Jun 29 (2008) 08:31PM  | It's looking a little better, but the battery life for video is kinda' disappointing. Lets see if it's got a bigger screen then (does say "Large Display", right?). |
| crazzyxjoex
Jun 29 (2008) 08:35PM  | hopefully they have a bigger screen like the one on my ZVW.... sigh |
| ssjmichael
Jun 29 (2008) 08:35PM  | Yeah, I had a similar thought when i saw the "Large Display" as a highlight. I wouldn't call 2.5" a large display. It doesn't look all that bigger than the original Zen's screen, but I'm hopeful. A 3" screen would certainly make this a more attractive option. |
| Raider Red
Jun 29 (2008) 08:38PM  | Woah! 36 hours? That's a long time. 5 could use a little improvement. |
| The DarkSide
Jun 29 (2008) 08:38PM | Oh yes, I think it'd pretty much be an EXCELLENT choice for my vids then. Just hope it can handle headphones (better in the volume dept.) as I can't really use IEM's or buds very much (causes ear probs for me). |
| Dominic
Jun 29 (2008) 08:41PM  | bigger screen = bigger case = bigger battery, would explain the increased battery life and how the additional components fit in ... one possible hypothesis. |
| Varuna
Jun 29 (2008) 08:41PM | I tried comparing it with the Zen.... IF The Player is at the same size as the Zen (length and Width), this has only 2.5" screen !  |
| rockinamigo14
Jun 29 (2008) 08:46PM  | nice to see they're doing something, but i am far from impressed. |
| ssjmichael
Jun 29 (2008) 08:52PM | Yeah you're right Varuna. Here's a rough comparison of the ZEN to the ZX-Fi: [ image disabled ] (again, assuming the length and width are the same) [ edited Jun 29 (2008) 08:53PM ] |
| The DarkSide
Jun 29 (2008) 09:02PM | Creative is a STRANGE BEAST. If that is accurate then it's not going to be the upgrade most have been looking for - including me. [ edited Jun 29 (2008) 09:03PM ] |
| Varuna
Jun 29 (2008) 09:03PM | Oh you did that already !  Yeah, Assuming that, Its 2.5 .. Also comparing the headphones it looks so.Hopefully some other players in the Series would be there. |
| Utew
Jun 29 (2008) 09:16PM  | It certainly has the looks... ...and it's far to early for wild approval/or condemnation based on what ssj has posted. However, it won't stop me from being not so impressed with the feature set as is. It looks like this is the player the ZEN should have been to begin with. Lack of bigger "widescreen" is a disappointment.. and instant messaging is a less than exciting use of Wi-fi.. though streaming music and X-Fi are nice additions. We'll see where this goes.... |
| kickenchicken
Jun 29 (2008) 09:31PM  | i'm not downgrading to a 2.5" from a 3.2".. so if i were to get this player, it would be for ocassional use, maybe just for audio (X-Fi) i'm quite exited about the X-Fi though. |
| Dopamino
Jun 29 (2008) 09:33PM  | I'm getting increasingly excited about this. |
| konechiwa
Jun 29 (2008) 11:12PM  | i liked the chrome but not the utter uglyness that is that stupid cell phone rip off. Why have instant messenger strictly on a wifi signal? who the hell doesn't have a computer or laptop at their disposal these days.... creative should just realize they need to license this technology so they can do something other companies have realized is good for them: make money. |
| Dopamino
Jun 29 (2008) 11:45PM | People who don't carry their laptops everywhere, that's who. |
| ltTHREE
Jun 30 (2008) 12:16AM  | first pic does look much better.. although I won't be getting this, I hope they release a whole lineup of xdi players and have sumthin like a stone xfi XD |
| ramakandra
Jun 30 (2008) 12:56AM  | ...based on my estimate... ...for which i am using the size of the headphones to establish the size of the x-fi... ...the xfi seems a little bigger than the zen... ...the screen seems a little bigger too... |
| yetz
Jun 30 (2008) 02:31AM | same screen size...just slightly thicker |
| Zensen
Jun 30 (2008) 03:22AM  | if its cheaper than the abomination that is the ipod touch I will be getting this as my zvm has hit the point that i a want bigger battery life and I like that it still uses tactile buttons for the important functions. I'm not fussed about watching movies on these type of screens now. The ZVM was great but it's not something i wanna do all the time. having said that, I want it to do TV-OUT? can it do that? that's one feature I've used quite a bit on my zvm and have enjoyed the portability of such a device on the bigger screen. still loving the instant messenger features as I can see myself using this every now and then on my travels esp at the end of the year when i plan on not taking my laptop and can find a wi-fi enabled area. I wonder if I can use those mobile broadband devices with it? I like the solid look and the x-fi features. I've lost my ep-630's so if they throw in those updated versions, even better! As I won't be getting a player til end of the year, i can't wait to see what else they have in store with this series. |
| rich01
Jun 30 (2008) 04:54AM | it sure looks nice but i wonder how those 9 buttons in the middle are going to be used... |
| davinp
Jun 30 (2008) 09:03AM  | Cool, Creative is finally able to make a WI-FI & X-FI player overcoming battery life Is it really coming with premium earphones instead of cheap ones? [ edited Jun 30 (2008) 09:04AM ] |
| 00ZEN
Jun 30 (2008) 10:15AM  | "Is it really coming with premium earphones instead of cheap ones?" Well..that's what it says in the description box...so I'm guessing yes. The headphones are about $57...that might make this whole package at least $250 bucks...well it's just my wild guess anyway. |
| kickenchicken
Jun 30 (2008) 01:31PM | the iPod touch isn't even close to being an abomination. Its actually pretty much what Creative's players should have been. I wonder about the I'm ing though. is it an application in the device which allows us to I'm anywhere theres a wifi signals, or strickly linked to our computers? cuz if not then it'd be great to i'm at starbucks where i get free wifi :] |
| Zeon2051
Jun 30 (2008) 02:23PM | A bit of a let down if i'm honest! Plus it will be a total nightmare to actually imput text with the buttons in that position (to the side of the screen). i would be better if you could rotate the unit 90 degrees (an accelerometer to auto change orientation?). Plus the same old screen Creative have used since the Vision:M? I hope for an X-FI touch or X-FI widescreen/HD. Only then will i be putting my Zen Vision M to one side! I'm actually contemplating holding out for the Zune 3! |
| Dominic
Jun 30 (2008) 02:39PM | It's not the same old screen as the one used in the ZV:M, we're assuming it is the same screen as used in the ZEN. |
| davinp
Jun 30 (2008) 02:40PM | The ZV:M had 262,000 LCD screen and the ZEN has a 16.7 million color screen, so they aren't the same |
| Utew
Jun 30 (2008) 03:10PM | Don't mean to get into a discussion about buttons vs touchscreens here, but it seems to me that a touchscreen would have made a lot of sense on this player. A soft keyboard, would have made messaging much easier.. and it would have allowed more space for a larger LCD screen. Why this wasn't implemented is a puzzler. |
| srika
Jun 30 (2008) 04:08PM  | nice photochops |
| ssjmichael
Jun 30 (2008) 04:44PM | Utew, I do agree with that. If they were going to create an instant messanging service they should have created a better way to type. Hell they could have added a real keyboard by going the Sony Mylo 2 route (that has a slide down keyboard as well as a touchscreen interface). Although WiFi is a big addition in our eyes, I'm not sure if it's their biggest draw with this player. Just look at the highlights in the first picture. There's mention of X-Fi, built-in speakers, etc..., but nothing about instant messaging. A bit odd. The menu clearly says "online" as one of the options though. I suppose it's because there are (likely) multiple versions of the player. [ edited Jun 30 (2008) 04:48PM ] |
| Utew
Jun 30 (2008) 05:32PM | Michael, The streaming aspect has my interest, most of all... and the implementation of it. If we see something similar to the Sansa Connect... well lets hope we don't, as a tie-in with just one streaming service (ala Yahoo Music) killed that player IMO. OTOH, something more akin to the Slacker.. perhaps would be the ticket. Somehow I think we'll see something less well refined.. and by less well refined, I mean rudimentary.. too early to tell. Speaking of the Mylo 2.. it just got an update (via firmware) to support a Shoutcast widget... in many ways, the best of all solutions. [ edited Jun 30 (2008) 05:34PM ] |
| Phreaker47
Jun 30 (2008) 07:40PM | I'm still disappointed with the recent trend of going with lower capacity flash players only. If the ipod classic 160 was priced a little better, I'd actually consider getting it because Creative has made it clear they aren't going in that direction. And no, having my entire library available ONLY at home on wireless won't cut it for me. And where the hell is built-in bluetooth stereo? Come on, guys. All this other stuff packed in there and they forget this? [ edited Jun 30 (2008) 07:42PM ] |
| TGA
Jun 30 (2008) 08:12PM  | I assume the player nad screen should be bigger to accomodate all those exra buttons, and the screen should be bigger to read text while IMing but judging by the pictures supplied it will be about the same size as a ZEN, and seeing those 9 small buttons on there may be a hassle to push for those with large fingers like me. If it would have a steaming service on it, I just hope its better than the sandisk Sansa Conect, and will be ablt to connect to any stream available. The SD card slot SHOULD be integrated good if Creative notices its error with the ZEN and decides to fix that problem for both players. Lastly, if it were to be made to IM, it would be better if it had a virtual keyboard or slide out keyboard, but the keyboard would make it thicker, and the Touch Screen may just not fit, seeing how this is a ZEN X-fi, not a ZEN Touch2 (The 2 was put since creative had already released an older player with the name "Touch" but I suppose they could reuse the name like with the ZEN) |
| ZVMForever
Jul 01 (2008) 11:30AM | Yawn. |
| llc00ljd
Jul 01 (2008) 04:08PM | No large capacity = No interest for me. I'm just a poor college student. I can't have complimentary players like you guys. Interested to see what the other features are though. |
| Dopamino
Jul 01 (2008) 06:28PM | "I'm still disappointed with the recent trend of going with lower capacity flash players only. If the ipod classic 160 was priced a little better, I'd actually consider getting it because Creative has made it clear they aren't going in that direction. And no, having my entire library available ONLY at home on wireless won't cut it for me." You can also upload it to Creative's server and stream it from there when you're in a wifi hotspot. |
| CardsFan
Jul 01 (2008) 08:50PM  | Uploading music to a server and streaming it is something that would work in the future when wifi is widespread but it isn't something that will work for most people. |
| yetz
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| TearsOfFire
Jul 02 (2008) 08:07AM | Yea.. that's what the patents are saying |
| Bosambo
Jul 02 (2008) 10:12AM  | Poor effort. X-fi isn't worth the lack of other things I need, like a bigger screen and capacity. I'll just have toi try and score another Zune 80 (girlfriend broke it and it's not availiable here in the UK...she's dumped) |
| elysia05
Jul 02 (2008) 07:27PM  | is this the replacement to the zvm? a little weak imo. i love that it has xfi and all but lets face it, everything else is almost the same and most ipod buyers usually arent interested in audio quality anyway. the lack of capacity is a shame. |
| ssjmichael
Jul 02 (2008) 10:38PM | It's not a ZVM replacement. It's a ZEN replacement, which was pretty much a Zen V replacement. There has yet to be, and probably never will be a ZVM successor from Creative. |
| commandercool
Jul 03 (2008) 02:15AM | hmm wi-fi and no internet browsing capabilities |
| davinp
Jul 03 (2008) 10:55PM | once again no fm recording capabilities |
| Ashra
Jul 05 (2008) 04:50PM  | i think its awesome. will definitely be waiting for one to come out in my part of town. commandercool: it worked for the Zune davinp: what do you use fmrecording for? i never used it in my old players but there seems to be alot of demands for it. [ edited Jul 05 (2008) 04:52PM ] |
| CardsFan
Jul 05 (2008) 07:18PM | I don't understand the FM recording thing either. Utterly pointless for me personally but that's just me |
| moorey
Jul 05 (2008) 09:49PM  | FM recording isn't included due to legal issues - its quite pathetic since you have been able to record radio onto cassette tapes for a long time, but we all know Creative cant afford another lawsuit. Besides, its hardly a deal breaking feature. I use my ZVMs radio a fair bit, and i've recorded a few things - but its not something i really care for or value. |
| info600
Jul 06 (2008) 01:11AM | at least my holding off on the ZEN pays off (sort of) now to save up for the extra SD Cards... |
| Raider Red
Jul 07 (2008) 01:02AM | I can't think of a recent player by a big company with FM recording. (Obligitory #$%! the RIAA here) As for SD cards, bookmark this page: [Linky] specifically [Linky] If you're patient tho, wait for a deal here: [Linky] Rather obscure name, but a very good company with great sales. I got a 4gb MicroSD for my cell for like $20. |
| tmc
Jul 07 (2008) 07:49PM  | I don't see any resolutions quoted beyond the codec compatability.. suffice to say, it will need at LEAST the Zen M/W's specs for video compatability to even be in consideration for purchase. Next, I want to see a SKYPE VOIP application written as an app for the wifi. There are PMP's chomping at the bit to be able to put this feature into their devices and if creative can beat most of the others to the punch.. all the better.. although Iriver's W10 will get there first... Another key problem is pricing.. Creative is stuck between a rock and a hardplace with pricing. I can't see this being a competitive product to what's out there.. but as I've said before, if they can pull off a stunning upset such as 32gb for under $180, they may just have something there.. for starters [ edited Jul 07 (2008) 07:51PM ] |
| Free Nos
Jul 10 (2008) 08:13AM | Its OUT. go to sg.creative.com and check abt it. |
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