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| Damo.
Aug 28 (2007) 06:00AM  | HOLY CRAP. THAT IS SEXY!!!! That is the best looking Zen i have ever seen. Now all they need to do is add a bigger screen and a hardrive to make a replacement for the W Damo |
| J234
Aug 28 (2007) 06:04AM | Hopefully this isn't the only player they announce. What about everyone who needs more than 16gb. We want hard drives! |
| Damo.
Aug 28 (2007) 06:07AM | I reckon on the 31st they are going to release a 60gb plus hdd player. Damo |
| ʇoɔspɐɯ
Aug 28 (2007) 06:08AM  | Wow.....well if across board releases are supposed to be coming that is a damn good start. I like the inclusion of a SD slot but has to come up a bit in capacity to compete with my 60Gb M |
| ssjmichael
Aug 28 (2007) 06:08AM  | Yeah, there will be another player (or two) from what I've heard. |
| J234
Aug 28 (2007) 06:13AM | Ah ok, that sounds good. |
| Damo.
Aug 28 (2007) 06:14AM |
| moorey
Aug 28 (2007) 06:16AM  | i take it that it doesnt work with the z600/500? $300 for 16Gb flash - that isnt too bad is it. [ edited Aug 28 (2007) 06:17AM ] |
| Damo.
Aug 28 (2007) 06:16AM | Why not? would it be too wide? Damo |
| DaeScope
Aug 28 (2007) 06:17AM  | Hopefully their other product will just be like this one, but with a hard drive! Man that device looks sexy and slim! Just wished the screen was a bit bigger say 3inch  |
| moorey
Aug 28 (2007) 06:18AM | i think so...look at the ZVM screen - its almost the whole way across the 'ZENs' screen is that same size plus all the controls |
| ssjmichael
Aug 28 (2007) 06:18AM | Thanks for the 16GB link. I knew there was one! 300 for 16GB's of flash with an SD expansion slot is not bad at all. |
| Damo.
Aug 28 (2007) 06:22AM | So that means it is the current highest capacity flash player even though the 16gb V Plus was because this has up to 24gbs! (If you get an 8gb SD) Damo |
| Damo.
Aug 28 (2007) 06:29AM | Doesn't the D2 have 16 Million colours to? Damo |
| ssjmichael
Aug 28 (2007) 06:35AM | Oh yeah you're right. I totally forgot about the D2 right now The 16.7 million that Creative has still is more than the 16 million that Cowon writes on their page. Unless they just left out the .7. *Shrug*. It's 6am here and I was about to go sleep right before I found this. So happy we're the first to provide it and in a somewhat coherent way, lol. I'm in one of those hyper/exhausted modes [ edited Aug 28 (2007) 06:38AM ] |
| YPM
Aug 28 (2007) 06:39AM | When I first saw this, I was like: nice PhotoShop job, then after seeing Amazon, I was like wow this is actually an official player lol... PS. WE WANT HDD PLAYERS WITH 60GB or more! [ edited Aug 28 (2007) 06:43AM ] |
| Ozzey
Aug 28 (2007) 06:49AM  | CREATIVE! WOOT!! This player looks... amazing. 16GB too? I can't wait. |
| TearsOfFire
Aug 28 (2007) 06:49AM | Smiles !!! Sure looks cool!! Can't wait for IFA!! |
| Kate
Aug 28 (2007) 07:14AM | awesome michael, I'm glad epizenter covered this first! I loveeeeeee the look of it... can't wait to see a review done on it  good job creative!! |
| blchicago
Aug 28 (2007) 07:16AM | Yep, I'm on board. It's a nice looking player. And my main [censored] about the ZVM is its boot-up time. I think a high-capacity flash player is in my future. I know some of you have tons of music - but 16gb should be enough for me, especially if I can simply write a movie to an SD card on the rare occasion I'm gonna have the time to actually watch one.  BL |
| Dominic
Aug 28 (2007) 08:07AM  | please welcome me to the Zen family |
| davinp
Aug 28 (2007) 08:12AM  | nice and thin! |
| Dominic
Aug 28 (2007) 08:24AM | yeah, I'm gonna hazard a guess that its 12mm thin |
| LordZero
Aug 28 (2007) 08:59AM  | Man, i bought the Meizu m6 8GB two weeks ago, and now Creative show this?I need a travel machine(or just hope that the meizu launch the firmware asap). Anyway, this look hot!But I am still hopping for a HDD Dap from Creative.Please!*puppy eyes* |
| master
Aug 28 (2007) 09:15AM  | I personally prefer ZVM over this. |
| Bitshitter
Aug 28 (2007) 09:25AM  | very nice!! I can't imagine that this will replace the ZVW, as the screen is so small. If it supports SDHC, then you can have 32GB of flash...not baaad. I'm not the biggest fan of PMP's, but I'm impressed! |
| cybaxx
Aug 28 (2007) 09:39AM  | looks very nice |
| ssjmichael
Aug 28 (2007) 10:09AM | Full specs listed now (thanks brandonson). The player supports AAC, and gets 25 hours of battery life. Very nice Creative! |
| nbrown
Aug 28 (2007) 10:10AM | no flac or ogg....shocking. always something to complain about. pretty nice looking player though. |
| Ricardo Dawkins
Aug 28 (2007) 10:21AM | good player....before the nano update...lets see how they roll on the marketplace. Nice use of standard USB and SD expansion. Hoping it's SDHC. Control are good. not that touchstrip suckage on the VM. (thanks good is not a touchscreen, too.) I dont like the UI, thought. from what I see. Nice bring the heat on HDD now, Creative !!! |
| RichA
Aug 28 (2007) 10:32AM | I haven't noticed this on Creative's link about the player [Linky] but is this MSC/MTP? Guessing from the SD card slot (also SDHC?), that it is. It is a nice DAP, just got a D2 not too long ago, but I will look at Creative again in the future when I need a new DAP. |
| Luuk
Aug 28 (2007) 10:38AM | byebye clix2 8gb (it's not even out yet in the us) welcome mister zen! Damn I've waited for a player like this for months. |
| ssjmichael
Aug 28 (2007) 10:39AM | Wow, things just keep getting updated! Now it's on Creative's page, and thankfully Amazon's info about video was a bit incorrect as it does support Xvid and Divx files without transcoding, woohoo! |
| Ozzey
Aug 28 (2007) 10:46AM | Woot, what a great day, tidbit after tidbit haha! |
| ssjmichael
Aug 28 (2007) 10:47AM | Yeah that's nice and all Ozzey but if it keeps happening all day I'll never get to bed  (10:30 am Tuesday. here, haven't slept since Sunday night) [ edited Aug 28 (2007) 10:48AM ] |
| Ron4540
Aug 28 (2007) 11:02AM | Yippee!!! Question -- Is Creative the first to support protected iTunes tracks (other than Apple)? |
| Ron4540
Aug 28 (2007) 11:03AM | Actually it looks like the support is for iTunes plus tracks -- these are the DRM-free iTunes tracks. |
| keybowvio
Aug 28 (2007) 11:05AM | Just out of curiosity (and it's probably to start asking questions, but why don't I get the ball rolling?), From the 360° demo, it appears there's no dongle, how then would you do video out? |
| Bitshitter
Aug 28 (2007) 11:16AM | So, is the GUI customizable, or is the red the only colour?? Customizable GUI's have become a standard feature for Creative, in recent years... |
| ssjmichael
Aug 28 (2007) 11:16AM | I might have missed it, but do they list TV-out capabilities? edit: Lacene I think there will be different color themes. [ edited Aug 28 (2007) 11:17AM ] |
| Bitshitter
Aug 28 (2007) 11:20AM | thanks, Michael! Hey, where's that Creative link you mentioned above? I couldn't find it on either the US or Main sites. I'm assuming that's where the 360 degree display is that was mentioned above.. |
| Cody B.
Aug 28 (2007) 11:21AM  | Hey CardsFan, you get AAC support on the new Zen. I think I might actually pick this one up in the 8gb flavor, its so good looking, such a great player! |
| ssjmichael
Aug 28 (2007) 11:21AM |
| Bitshitter
Aug 28 (2007) 11:31AM | This is very nice (not to become a post-whore). I knew Creative had it in them to break the 0.5" thick barrier, and the 15-hour playback barrier! I'm becoming more impressed with this little guy.....I may have to spring for this! |
| Varuna
Aug 28 (2007) 11:37AM  | WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAA !!!  DAMN I'm late to check this OUT! I DONNT KNOW..But I AM SOOO FREAKKING HAPPY THEY RELEASED a NEW PLAYER ! MY MOM thinks im crazy ! I dunno.. All that wait.. and Forum Discussion!! Ahhh !! Creative Going GOOOOD!! THANKS a lot Michael ! ANd.. OMG.. I'm more excited of the fact that there are gonaa be 2 more Devices !!! [Drooooling....] |
| ssjmichael
Aug 28 (2007) 11:40AM | Well, don't hold me to the two devices! heh, I believe there will be at least one more player shown at IFA. *crosses fingers* |
| ZenFunker
Aug 28 (2007) 11:50AM  | [Linky] Its in the news sorry for posting other website im just excited. if u click on the pic of the guy playingt he guitar on the zen in product descripion in amazon its opens up the details of the zen [ edited Aug 28 (2007) 11:53AM ] |
| ssjmichael
Aug 28 (2007) 11:56AM | ThePatient, they're taking that news straight from this site without giving credit. Know how I know? Our affiliate tags are in their amazon link. *sigh* |
| Woembah
Aug 28 (2007) 11:59AM  | ONGELOFELIJK!!!!!!!!!!!!! (dutch, means INCREDIBLE!!!!!!) This is exactly what i'm looking for, a flash player with good video watching capabilities, but still small and thin and an expansion slot! Their slogan for this player ('small wonder') really doesn't seem bullshit to me! Go Creative!!!!!  The only thing I need is money...  |
| Cody B.
Aug 28 (2007) 12:02PM | I like how they've kept the 5 Band Custom EQ. |
| Cody B.
Aug 28 (2007) 12:02PM | I'm so glad they've kept the 5 Band Custom equalizer. |
| melodiess
Aug 28 (2007) 12:13PM | I think that 16 gb is good enough at least there is a memory expansion slot. I believe there is no limit to the maximum memory the slot can take. furthermore this player is slimmer in size and supports itunes too.! |
| SlimDan22
Aug 28 (2007) 12:42PM  | Im so glad they included Divx and Xvid support [ edited Aug 28 (2007) 12:42PM ] |
| SlimDan22
Aug 28 (2007) 12:48PM | Did they change the GUI?? or is it the same concept as the old ones because its kinda stupid if they changed it after the legal battle with Apple |
| supermonkey
Aug 28 (2007) 12:52PM  | I love the look of the GUI. a much needed update, and a customisable alarm clock too |
| supermonkey
Aug 28 (2007) 12:53PM | slim dan, its more or less the same gui just with more features. Creative won the battle with apple so the gui on the zens will always be the best! |
| mdscriber3
Aug 28 (2007) 12:55PM  | WOOO HOOOOO!!! It's a beautiful day! Welcome to the Zen Family, Dom  |
| ilh
Aug 28 (2007) 01:02PM | Think i'd still prefer my ZVM over this but it's a really good start. It's still the Sammy P2 for my next DAP at the moment though (want to try something totally new). I'll have to see what else Creative pull out in the next few days at IFA first. How are the controls on the W if they're similar to this? Not tried 1 before. |
| CardsFan
Aug 28 (2007) 01:09PM  | I really like what I've seen so far. I really was hoping for more memory but I like the SD slot. You can double the memory on it for 125 bucks or so, just keep all your movies on SD cards and put your music on the player. |
| redled
Aug 28 (2007) 01:09PM | To me this is the perfect layout for a player. Nice big screen but overall small player. Same format as the Meizu and Teclast players, but coming from Creative this should really outperform those brands. The only thing that could ruin it for me is if it was MTP only. Crossing my fingers. |
| RichA
Aug 28 (2007) 01:13PM | To me this is the perfect layout for a player. Nice big screen but overall small player. Same format as the Meizu and Teclast players, but coming from Creative this should really outperform those brands. The only thing that could ruin it for me is if it was MTP only. Crossing my fingers. That is what I posted earlier. Hopefully Creative won't stick to their MTP only tradition, but with an SD card slot, I am guessing it will be MSC also. |
| ilh
Aug 28 (2007) 01:13PM | Does anyone else have any problems at all getting on the creative site? It's been going on for literally years now for me, it takes an AGE to load anything. I clicked the link earlier in the comments about 15 minutes ago and it's still not loaded anything but the titlebar text. |
| jann_58
Aug 28 (2007) 01:18PM | A good day indeed, just tour their website for the babe. Drooling...http://www.creative.com/products/mp3/zen/ |
| BigDad
Aug 28 (2007) 01:36PM | It appears as though the link to Amazon is gone now! It was there when I first looked at the thread, but now I get a missing page message from Amazon. This player is amazing looking! I just got a 2gb ZVP and a 4gb ZVP (The Best Buy deal...too good to pass up). Now I will have to convince my wife we need a THIRD player (I have the ZVM already)!!! 16gb plus the SD is a great combo... |
| redled
Aug 28 (2007) 01:40PM | Unfortunately it looks like this might be MTP only, the specs say XP or Vista is required. |
| YPM
Aug 28 (2007) 01:55PM | Yea I guess it will be MTP only (such a shame) because they included the USB HD function again... |
| Ricardo Dawkins
Aug 28 (2007) 02:05PM | UMS is dying...dudes.. |
| CardsFan
Aug 28 (2007) 02:08PM | Amazon links are dead now |
| redled
Aug 28 (2007) 02:13PM | There's a lot of death going around. |
| cybaxx
Aug 28 (2007) 02:19PM | btw look at the first picture and then at the others -> the upper button and the one on the bottom are swapped [ edited Aug 28 (2007) 02:20PM ] |
| davinp
Aug 28 (2007) 02:29PM | According to the post on CNET's Crave this is the Zen Vision:M replacment and will only be offered in black. Goodbye hard drive players. It will support AAC and unsuported iTunes tracks. [Linky] |
| Varuna
Aug 28 (2007) 02:30PM | @ cybaxx: OH yea !! Nice find ! I noticed that too. But the product is real for sure. It's on the Creative's site. on the site.. there is Just the main Picture. @ davinp: It's stupid if they get out of HDD. I dont think so. Thats just an opinion of Cnet. and yes.. the site (creative) also says.. Just black ! [ edited Aug 28 (2007) 02:36PM ] |
| Varuna
Aug 28 (2007) 02:35PM | I hope thats just an Opinion !!  |
| Who'sYourDaddy
Aug 28 (2007) 02:53PM  | ZEN, 11.3 mm thick vs iPod 30GB, 10.9 mm thin. iPod 30GB, 2.5" display with LED backlight, outputs video, available now, actually, available for almost a year now; 30GB $250. BTW, iPod Nano is 6.6 mm thin |
| Im_Numba_1
Aug 28 (2007) 03:12PM  | dam it looks sweet but i need more than 16 gb |
| Im_Numba_1
Aug 28 (2007) 03:14PM | the link to amazon doesn't work |
| rockinamigo14
Aug 28 (2007) 03:27PM  | i REALLY hope it has TV-out. that would possibly be a deal breaker. |
| Muchiey
Aug 28 (2007) 04:01PM  | i want it now . and i mean now !. why does Creative do this to us . they release a showcase a player and aren't ready to ship it out. its like waving cocaine in front of a junkie. |
| Illmatic016
Aug 28 (2007) 04:46PM | Even though that player looks extremely nice, I'm actually rather disappointed. I have a ZVM 30 with only about 3.5 gbs left of space, and I was hoping they would annouce a new hdd player with atleast 60gb . |
| Ashra
Aug 28 (2007) 04:54PM  | WOW! it is like a meizu player for us creative fanboys! back in my new player topic, i was saying that i was going to import the meizu when i had the money, but now that this little baby is out, i can stick with creative all the way!! |
| Im_Numba_1
Aug 28 (2007) 05:01PM | muchiey, they do that to us is to build up hype |
| BigKenW
Aug 28 (2007) 05:07PM | Look at that, on the Creative Specs page it supports MP4 Video. No more needing to convert podcasts. Yay! |
| tmc
Aug 28 (2007) 05:11PM  | IMHO, this is NOT a ZVM replacement. The design sort of looks like a Zune in a mini ZVW form factor. One thing that would put it back in the running for ZVM replacement: 32gb @ $299-- 16gb, No-way, also.. I would have started out @ 8gb... even if they couldn't get a 32gb device released in '07 Also, I say boo for abandoning the ZVM form factor... Making the ZVM longer/wider (not thicker) but keeping it's vertical form factor might have been a compromise. Who agrees with me? |
| HipHopScribe
Aug 28 (2007) 05:12PM  | Looks nice, but not nice enough for me to want it over my D2 |
| Jasonnin
Aug 28 (2007) 05:16PM | 30GB minimum needed. Although the player looks very nice. |
| IceCAPPED
Aug 28 (2007) 05:20PM | the day after i get ma ZVP and this is out lol i dun rly care tho i personaly dont really like the look but thats just me im happy with my ZVP |
| Im_Numba_1
Aug 28 (2007) 05:22PM | it the size of a credit card |
| Peacemaker636
Aug 28 (2007) 05:30PM | THAT IS A THING OF BEAUTY! |
| Cotton
Aug 28 (2007) 05:55PM  | It's beautiful alright, but it's only 16 gigs. Unless they announce a 64gig+ hdd player on the 31st, which now looks increasingly unlikely, I guess I'll be waiting for the new Ipod. |
| Harry
Aug 28 (2007) 06:17PM  | Gorgeous gorgeous amazing Stunning fabulous, all these are less complimenting for the new ZEN.. It looks sexy and more sleek than any INano on market.. Beware Apple!!!! |
| Raider Red
Aug 28 (2007) 06:21PM  | Momma Mia- 16.7 MILLION COLORS!!! The ZV:M only had 262,144, and the screen was beeautiful. I really think this will turn the tide. |
| Royal Freshness
Aug 28 (2007) 06:40PM  | Momma Mia- 16.7 MILLION COLORS!!! The ZV:M only had 262,144, and the screen was beeautiful. I really think this will turn the tide. that is definitely a plus I think ill stick with my ZVM until they a player with more memory (hopefully friday) |
| Utew
Aug 28 (2007) 07:01PM  | Nice job keeping up with the news, Michael... This is IMO definitely an excellent replacement for the 30GB ZVM.. assuming SDHC support, for maximizing the total allowable memory. Disappointed that this does not include some form of wireless capability (pref. bluetooth).. but it has a lot of positive aspects that may justify many an upgrade for ZVM owners. |
| ssjmichael
Aug 28 (2007) 07:07PM | Bluetooth is one of those features that many people won't take advantage of though. The selection for bluetooth headphones isn't that great right now and we just haven't seen the BT revolution that many of us were expecting to see since last year. I think it'd be nice to have it, but I don't think investing in something for a small amount of users would be worth it for them, especially in their current financial situation. |
| Utew
Aug 28 (2007) 07:26PM | I agree, Michael... you stated that well... I do think we'll start seeing more bluetooth support very soon.. and if Apple supports it on their new player(s).. it will become standard quite fast... In my mind the Samsung P2 has the upper hand over this new ZEN.. in user interface and bluetooth support.. the Zen wins in total memory expandability and the usual excellent video codec support... this will be a tough call for me... [ edited Aug 28 (2007) 07:30PM ] |
| G25
Aug 28 (2007) 07:32PM  | ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL! Great looking player. It really seems like Creative thought this one out before just throwing something into the market. HOWEVER... my issues: 1) 16GB won't be anywhere near enough for the consumers that use 30/60/80GB players. 2) Can the screen viewing be rotated? (like the V/V+) Mounting a horizontal player in my car could be an issue. |
| troxy
Aug 28 (2007) 08:03PM | Omfg, I can hardly believe this is true! This very day, I was playing with my Vision:M thinking "hm, this thing is kinda fatty". And now this, the perfect replacement! It's looks like the new Zen addresses almost all of the ZVM's shortcomings: - Sleek design. - "Clicky" buttons instead of touch strip. - Standard usb jack instead of a lousy dongle. - Expansion slot. - Flash instead of hdd But the big question is: will we finally have true UMS support? |
| kickenchicken
Aug 28 (2007) 08:04PM  | YES YES YES YES YES!~!! FINALLY CREATIVE FINALLY! A GORGOUES PLAYER WITH A GORGEOUS SCREEN!!!!! im excited now! im getting this, when i get a job! [censored] YEAH> my bad lol. ahhh!~ WOO AAC!!!!! AND 16.7 million colors! WOO!! MAN! now what apple now what! BOO YAH!! |
| Pazuzu
Aug 28 (2007) 08:12PM  | It's beautiful. I can't wait to get one of my own! If it is MSC, my jaw will be permanently affixed to the floor. [ edited Aug 28 (2007) 08:20PM ] |
| Boze
Aug 28 (2007) 08:18PM  | i think they decieded not to make other colors becuase that costs a lot of money. not everyone wants a blue one or green one. so they waste a lot of money on that. i do think they should have made a white one |
| elysia05
Aug 28 (2007) 08:27PM  | omg!!! i so want one! good job creative! |
| Utew
Aug 28 (2007) 08:35PM | Couldn't agree more with you more Boze... Do the black first.. see how it sells.. then release special editions if the sales warrant doing so.. I never understood the multiple colors on initial release, which were difficult to find many times, to begin with. @kc.. calm down, Ramon before you hyper-ventilate..  |
| Dominic
Aug 28 (2007) 11:37PM | ack! mtp, this could be they killer |
| ssjmichael
Aug 29 (2007) 12:12AM | I wasn't expecting UMS at all since it is a PlayForSure Device. The Stone was UMS because there simply was no need for any MTP with the lack of subscription support. I wish it had a dual system, but it looks to be just MTP. |
| Utew
Aug 29 (2007) 01:20AM | Told myself I wasn't buying another MTP-only player... it isn't too late to make this dual UMS/MTP via firmware mod, but knowing Creative it probably isn't in the cards. ... I also fear many will pass due to it's lack of flexibility in that regard... |
| Boze
Aug 29 (2007) 01:40AM | wait what is mtp and ums? what does the zvm have? |
| Utew
Aug 29 (2007) 01:56AM | ZVM is MTP.. it needs Windows basically... though if you utilize the data partition on your ZVM it communicates via UMS... The advantage to UMS (MSC) is that your player acts as a drive letter.. the same as a USB thumbdrive.. no software needed... so UMS compatible players work on ALL operating systems.. not just Windows.. |
| ssjmichael
Aug 29 (2007) 02:16AM | I never understood the lack of a dual system. I don't think it's the most difficult thing to make, but they could definitely benefit from doing so. I mean MSC opens the doors up to many Mac owners who otherwise would probably just get an iPod. 9 times out of 10 a mac owner will get the iPod, but that 1/10th could certainly help Creative and will definitely pay for the cost of working on that system. Besides Mac users, I know tons of Windows users who refuse to get an MTP device. Many of whom have had trouble getting these players to work properly on their pc. [ edited Aug 29 (2007) 02:19AM ] |
| Utew
Aug 29 (2007) 02:40AM | Therein lies the crux.. MTP protocol, though having some advantages in metadata content recognition.. complicates the overall communication system courtesy of more complex software needs.. and has been the biggest sore spot in Creative's (and others) Support dept.. I'd bet. MSC just works in a more simplified manner and is the de facto standard. Microsoft and big media's DRM restrictions have made this an issue that shouldn't even exist. Ok, no more ranting on this from me.. |
| redled
Aug 29 (2007) 03:17AM | Creative seems to be rather stubborn on the issue, and I don't understand why. Most companies, in fact all of them besides iriver that i'm aware of that have MTP support also provide some kind of option to connect in UMS mode as well, either by choice or automatically on a non-windows system. If this had either of those options i'd get it in a heartbeat, but without it I probably won't. Partly because it would probably involve buying a new motherboard to get MTP working on my system, and party because of principal. It sucks, because I know i'll be missing out on a great player. EDIT: I just remembered that the Clix2 does offer that option. There you go. [ edited Aug 29 (2007) 03:19AM ] |
| Suz
Aug 29 (2007) 03:25AM | Cool, but I was hoping it would resemble the ZVM. We'll talk when they release one with a 30 GB+ capacity. |
| redled
Aug 29 (2007) 04:22AM | Holy crap, I just got MTP working on my system... |
| ssjmichael
Aug 29 (2007) 04:30AM | It's a miracle! It's like a message from above for you to get the ZEN : D |
| redled
Aug 29 (2007) 04:50AM | Well, it was definitely a motivating factor. Now I have to seriously consider this thing. |
| Dominic
Aug 29 (2007) 06:39AM | Oh well.... no Zen for me, I kinda though that it might be msc because of the SD slot....oh well, I guess I'll pick up the P2 instead, hopefully it'll come in 16gb's by mid september This thing is gorgeous though, and certain elements of it's design remind me very much of the Archos 404, it is sort of a mish mash between the Meizu M6 and Archos 404. |
| AG
Aug 29 (2007) 07:04AM | its still made in malaysia... funny.. i wonder if the buttons light up like the buttons on the zvm.. |
| RichA
Aug 29 (2007) 08:34AM | MTP only, and Creative continues with it's love affair with MTP. I am currently running on a Vista OS, and have no issues with MTP, still it would have been nice for the MSC option. This is what I default to on my D2 and all my DAPs I have, or have owned on the past (with the exception of my ZSP) were MTP/MSC. My D2 (current), my Rio Carbon. Honestly though, if I hadn't decided to purchase a D2 recently, I would've considered this DAP. Although, I like my D2 a lot,, but this is a great looking DAP with expansion capabilities. [ edited Aug 29 (2007) 08:36AM ] |
| ssjmichael
Aug 29 (2007) 03:36PM | Just a heads up that Creative updated their site and the player will indeed support SDHC cards. |
| Cody B.
Aug 29 (2007) 05:48PM | MTP is just fine for me (I use XP:MCE and Linux Ubuntu) as I can just dual boot to transfer, or install libmtp on linux. |
| redled
Aug 29 (2007) 07:22PM | MTP is just fine for me Hey watch your language, children can read this, you know. |
| mdscriber3
Aug 29 (2007) 10:56PM | LOL |
| ashxcore
Aug 30 (2007) 12:25AM  | HFS. Some Creative guys went back to design school. That thing's smokin'. Unfortunately the specs are screen are underwhelming... |
| haringivan
Aug 30 (2007) 10:13AM | Smaller than a credit card? I can probably shove it in my wallet. Maybe it's their flagship as it has quite a simple name. Zen. You won't call it in acronyms anymore. And they took out the 'vision' part as most likely it's less on the vision side than the music side (though the 16M screen makes me think twice). [ edited Aug 30 (2007) 10:17AM ] |
| ssjmichael
Aug 30 (2007) 10:16AM | They're talking about width wise, not thickness. |
| haringivan
Aug 30 (2007) 10:30AM | Ah, so much for earphones sticking out my wallet. By the way, has there been any notice that this supports album art? Or is album art mandatory in MP3 players nowadays that it needs no mentioning? |
| ssjmichael
Aug 30 (2007) 12:06PM | Yep it does support Album art |
| muhahahahamed
Aug 30 (2007) 06:20PM | Will it have TV-out? And will it be able to play videos with higher resolution than 320x240?? |
| ssjmichael
Aug 30 (2007) 08:34PM | Not yet known for both questions. I do think it will play higher resolution video, but I really am not hopeful about the TV-out. If Creative had intentions for that I believe we would have seen it from the start. Very rarely do they add such a big feature by means of a firmware upgrade. [ edited Aug 30 (2007) 08:35PM ] |
| zenwolf
Sep 01 (2007) 03:24PM  | Magnificent player!! Don't see anything about having an AC adapter available. Really need to have one of those, or will the Zen Micro USB AC adapter work. I have no idea where I'm going to get $300 |
| Who ME
Sep 11 (2007) 06:57PM | zenwolf, the ZEN Micro USB adapter should work. Also the ZEN universal adapter that come with the USB to ring-tip adapter should work as well. |
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