Maybe this is why I keep hearing of people consistently getting over 20 hours of battery life

i guess this means i will be getting a 4th creative player

wtf??? so the zen v plus has a 35 battery hour life??

No tical, the chip inside it was capable of attaining high battery life but for some reason it isn't on the Zen V Plus. I understand there are many factors that go into that number, including screen size and type, colors and resolution, and brightness.

So do the latest Zen vision Ms also have this chipset??

i told everyone a while back that creative would put these chips in their players

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Thats very good to know ssj. but i'm equally disappointed that a company like Creative which is so superior in the field of audio and that has the most extensive research team, would not take advantage of what this chipset could do.. Probably there may be some glitch to this. May be political or may be there is some reason that we are missing out here..

dam...i thought it did..cause my brothers dosent have a 35 hour battery life..

I loooved the sound quality of my old Samsung Z5 ... I just couldn't stand the interface, unfortunately. I really miss that player ... it sounded fantastic.

if creative made a mp3 player as sleek as the ipod video and had this chipset in it,

apple would have some trouble

The ZVM has a Texas Instruments chip in it.

Why'd they block all the features that the SoC has already? You would actually have to WORK to limit features. This is ridiculous...

It seems like the V/V+ had a good start, but someone put the brakes on what it could have been... I am no fan of the V/V+ CSTN LCD (though it does require less power, than standard TFT screens).. and of course the limited use of the chipset is mind-boggling...

I assume they were trying to just keep the cost down, an admirable goal... but at what cost to performance and features? Perhaps we'll see a much improved second version that corrects these short-sighted decisions..
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They probably used a smaller battery to keep it small.

Scratch that CSTN comment above.. confused with the Neeon 2.. however the V/V+ OLED is less than the best quality..

..what the heck happened to the edit function on Comments??? It's like a ghost in the machine, first it isn't there.. and then it is... geez.. this e107 software has it's issues...
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about the 35 hour life? is that true?? because if that is i'm getting an 8gb one in a heartbeat right now!!

Or maybe it was just pointless/impractical to include all of the features on the V/V+? Keep in mind the V line belongs to a particular class of player -- small, lightweight, even more exclusively a music player than the Vision lines (does anyone *seriously* use the video on the V+?).

What that means is this: you're using a smaller battery, which could affect play-time, regardless of the chip in use.

ALSO just because a chip is capable of playing a certain set of audio and video formats does not mean that a particular configuration can make use of such capabilities. Something as basic as clock speed still needs to meet a certain requirement for nice things like H.264 to work. To draw an analogy, I can get a brand new AMD Dual-Core, and if I (hypothetically) run it at 200MHz, it's still not going to play MPEG1. Again, the V players were designed with a particular scope, and trying to juice things up for the chip was probably beyond that scope.

It's quite possible that the V players were something of a test-bed too for the chip, and possibly the OLED displays as well, for Creative to get their feet wet as it were, without taking any "visible risks" -- they make a snazzy little player and not deal with the headaches of supporting (ie. software and tech support) three or four new media formats, all while getting real-world testing on some new hardware as well.

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that would have been cool if the zen v plus had a 35 hour battery life...

You could be right drakest, but I wish we'd actually see a player from Creative that did take better advantage of this chip. It doesn't need to have X-Fi in it or anything. Just make something around the size of the Meizu M6, put a STMP3600 in there and it'd sell like crazy.

I'm afraid that they'll move on past that Sigmatel chips and start using chips from 3D Labs. Since I know pretty much what their next player or two will be, I'd say they weren't just testing the waters with the Zen V, but rather just didn't tap the chip for all it could've gotten.

In my opinion, there's no reason why Ogg shouldn't be added to their line of codecs. It's open-source and will attract a few more consumers. There isn't a whole lot of engineering work that needs to be done either, so what's stopping Creative?

Hey SSJ, does 3D labs make good chips?

Wait, Nevermind, i didnt know Creative aquired 3D Labs in 2002... wait, is this some sort of good news that they might use one of those chips? and would audio quality be good?

I have no clue about their chips, but I imagine Creative would begin using them in the future.

hmm i wish creative woulld use more of the supported functions, then i would buy one instead of thinking of buying a sansa, samsung or a iriver

stmp 3700 should be out soon. Its smaller chip and much better all around for features, video and battery life. I hope creative still uses sigmatel and has already designed a player with it. Theoretically, if used correctly, it would allow a company to make the ultimate player. 3600 was ok, but that was the first arm for them. This new one could bring creative back into the game imo.