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| Bobbs
Aug 23 (2006) 01:00AM | I'm really excited to see what size video formats that it will do now that it is widescreen. Better start saving up for this now. |
| swh
Aug 23 (2006) 02:07AM | What this magazine said is true.The Quality of the screen of this player is better than the previous Zen Vision |
| kingone
Aug 23 (2006) 02:57AM  | looks great! |
| lost1
Aug 23 (2006) 03:00AM | ....i was hopeing this was going to be a next version of the ZV:M but no....oh well... |
| hshortt
Aug 23 (2006) 03:17AM | I'm looking forward to this, bring on the widescreens!  |
| quiksliver
Aug 23 (2006) 05:45AM | damnit creative just when I was going to buy a ZVM you tempt me even more with your wide-screenisness |
| davinp
Aug 23 (2006) 06:10AM  | Is this going to replace the old Zen Vision, which a dismal screen? Creative has the advantage, since Apple doesn't offer this type of player |
| Bitshitter
Aug 23 (2006) 06:17AM  | Sweet!! While a video-centric PMP is not my style, It's good to know that Creative addressed the crappy LCD issue of the first Vision. Now, with widescreen, they can give Archos and Cowon a run for the money.... Hopefully, with all the ads showing up about the 60GB ZVM, it's only a matter of days before they are announced..... hmmm....I think I'll go check my latest Field & Herald edition, and see what they have to say about it...  |
| Caleb
Aug 23 (2006) 07:23AM  | Dang I want that... |
| TonyG
Aug 23 (2006) 07:30AM  | thats ironic because that is what i was going to name my sketch-up pmp but i never got around to posting name and specs on it. |
| the_sidewinder
Aug 23 (2006) 07:31AM  | Looks nice |
| kingone
Aug 23 (2006) 07:40AM | 4.3†WQVGA wide aspect high-resolution TFT LCD screen View 480 x 272 resolution in a wide aspect screen at up to 262,144 colors in your videos. TFT LCD ... isn't it the same as the ZEN Vision? [ edited Aug 23 (2006) 07:40AM ] |
| supermonkey
Aug 23 (2006) 07:52AM  | seems as though the rumours are true with all these ads and the singapore site shop by capacity section now has a 30gb to 60gb option. |
| The Big M
Aug 23 (2006) 07:53AM  | If the viewing angle is good, it should be a winner. Thats the only flaw in the Zen Vision. (Keep your fingers crossed for a line-in video recording feature.) |
| firestorm
Aug 23 (2006) 08:04AM  | how does it stack up with the new Archos 604 which was just released with 160 Gigs,4.3" screen ,16 million colours.the market is really getting very competitive |
| Chahk
Aug 23 (2006) 08:08AM  | Oh my... I was waiting so long for a widescreen player that supports all those codecs out of the box. CF slot is a huge plus for many photographers who need an image tank (unfortunately my crappy camera uses SD.) Now all it needs is both MTP and UMS interfaces, folder and tag browsing, nice dock with video in/out, replaceable battery and it will be a dream come true. For added bonus it should run on Linux, but I wouldn't hold my breath for that one |
| the_sidewinder
Aug 23 (2006) 08:33AM | wrote ... TFT LCD ... isn't it the same as the ZEN Vision? And trhe LCD you are looking at now too (Most colour LCDs today are TFT) |
| krazy
Aug 23 (2006) 08:38AM  | I have a question if Vision W is at $399 for the 30gig, and $499 for the 60gig, how much is the 60gig Vision M going to cost??? |
| ssjmichael
Aug 23 (2006) 08:53AM  | If I was to follow that pattern, I'd say $399? That's how much the 60GB Ipod 5G costs, and I know Creative will like to stay competitive, so it shouldd be around that number. |
| OhioState87
Aug 23 (2006) 09:06AM  | how does it stack up with the new Archos 604 which was just released with 160 Gigs,4.3" screen ,16 million colours.the market is really getting very competitive Are you serious, firestorm? |
| Scarpad
Aug 23 (2006) 09:20AM | With the screen being 480x272 will it scale 640x??? xvids I wonder? |
| Austin Vaughan
Aug 23 (2006) 09:21AM  | i really hope that: 1. it supports AC3 audio, else it's useless for me 2. the screen resolution is better than other PMPs on the market (480x272)... just ain't doing it for me anymore when all my movies are encoded to 640px width 3. you can load/access the media library through a MSC interface as well as MTP (as in the ZVM) 4. battery life is as good as the Cowon A2 |
| Austin Vaughan
Aug 23 (2006) 09:22AM | scarpad: yeah, whatever the actual screen resolution turns out to be, videos of various size are scaled to fit. same as any PMP these days |
| Mini-Me
Aug 23 (2006) 09:28AM  | OhioState87: Yes, he is. 160GB player. That's the same size as one of my hard drives! *cries* These biggies were always to... big for me. |
| painkiller
Aug 23 (2006) 09:56AM  | I always like the design of the Vision. Just hope it won't be hampered with the viewing angles the previous one had. |
| firestorm
Aug 23 (2006) 10:07AM |
| Deano
Aug 23 (2006) 01:10PM | @Austin: 1.) Creative have not deviated from WAV, MP3 and WMA for years. I fail to see why they will start now. 2.) It might, I hope to god it has a good screen resolution. I thought the last Vision supported 640x480 though, maybe my memory is rusty though. 3.) No chance. I am pretty sure all of the "Western" aimed players are all MTP. There will be no MSC, I'm 99% certain. 4.) We can wait and see, but Creative haven't been good on battery life since the Touch. |
| ssjmichael
Aug 23 (2006) 01:17PM | It'll be 480x272 which is the same as the Archos AV500 and Cowon A2. Are there any Widescreen PMP's that go higher than that? The battery should be replacable too. |
| rockinamigo14
Aug 23 (2006) 03:26PM  | still no TV recording support? |
| konechiwa
Aug 23 (2006) 07:24PM  | for anyone who cares: 160GB's: 40,000 Songs 200 Movies (based 800MB per movie) 160,000 Pictures DAMN! thats a whole lotta stuff! |
| Utew
Aug 23 (2006) 08:56PM  | AC3 support, as Austin mentioned... makes it or breaks it.. for me.. |
| F4ll3ngo3th3
Aug 23 (2006) 09:31PM | Add a camera and a cellphone feature in it and im there |
| ssjmichael
Aug 23 (2006) 09:53PM | Cellphone?  |
| Bobbs
Aug 23 (2006) 11:16PM | 480x272? So a larger widescreen, but less resolution than the orginal Zen Vision? Are you sure about that? |
| ssjmichael
Aug 24 (2006) 02:20AM | Yeah, like I said that's the standard for 4" Widescreen PMP's. Check out the specs for the Cowon A2 and the Archos PMP's and you will find the same thing. 640x480 is not a widescreen ratio it's a 4:3 ratio. No one has really complained much about the video quality on the Cowon A2 or AV500 so there shouldn't be any problems with it. I'm still looking to find out if there any widescreen PMP's with a larger resolution than that. [ edited Aug 24 (2006) 02:21AM ] |
| monkeyboy
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| angrez
Aug 24 (2006) 09:50AM  | So the Zen Vision W is a successor to Zen Vision and not ZVM, right? Is that why theres no scroll pad on that thing? |
| ssjmichael
Aug 24 (2006) 01:14PM | Yeah you got it angrez |
| Scarpad
Aug 25 (2006) 10:23PM | I was going to order an A2 but now I'm thinking of holding off to see the Zen W, the A2 is mighty tempting thou. |
| ienigma
Aug 26 (2006) 09:22AM  | If the resolution is actually less than the original Vision's, then we all may be better off getting an old one at a discount. I like both of these players, but they're too big to be pocketable. Hell, my ZV:M is pushing it. |
| Scarpad
Aug 26 (2006) 10:29AM | Well I guess it depends on how much Widescreen movies you view. I watch alot of Older TV which tends to be 4:3. Movies on a 4:3 screen like the original vision tend be small due to Letterboxing. For those the W would excel. I actually would get more use out of the original Zen Vision I suppose, but my Dell Axim already has the issue with the viewing angles I would not want to have this again on another device. I'm starting to Lean toward the Cowon A2, it seems to have more features. Just no 60gb version thou. But I'm not sure I want to spend $500 on a PMP Anyhow. |
| KingSized_Halfling
Aug 29 (2006) 08:42AM | wide screen is cool but if your reslotion get worse I don't know if it's worth it at least they should give it more features. more extensions it can handle with and maybe WIFI connection possibilities and cellphon options tv-in sho you can record video and an audio -in jack and maybe some game accessories then it would be a very multi functional device and then it would be the perfect pmp [ edited Aug 29 (2006) 08:43AM ] |
| ssjmichael
Aug 29 (2006) 01:31PM | Kingsized, see my post here for info about Widescreen resolutions [Linky] Every Widescreen PMP has this same resolution. |
| Bitshitter
Aug 30 (2006) 09:46AM | Official Singapore release from Creative: [Linky] The Creative ZEN Vision W (30GB) premieres at COMEX 2006 in Singapore on 31 August 2006 for only S$649.00 and will be available at all Creative Stores island-wide and online at sg.store.creative.com, as well as other retail stores in Singapore. The 60GB model for just S$749.00 will be available in end September 2006. [ edited Aug 30 (2006) 09:48AM ] |
| cjcerny
Aug 30 (2006) 11:34AM | Great to see the widescreen, but where's the support for AC3 soundtracks in xvid files? Adding support for those as well as adding the headphone surround feature they have in their X-Fi hardware to this unit would make it a dream come true. |
| csgunner17
Oct 03 (2006) 06:10PM  | so what does the ratio do u know 4:3 and stuff |
| romski Nov 23 (2006) 03:35PM | I love it. I got One. Picture is stunning. I can go to bed and see a whole movie. Sound is good and the interconnect with diary and address book useful. If you travel lots like I do, this does the job. Am considering junking the PDA and computer goes in the hold. Did I say pix are good. Replay onto TV Ok not stunning. With Slysoft software copies of DVDs to watch on plane are simple to do. 2 hour film becomes 900k avi. Only quirk I can find is that password protection for files is not fully developed. Battery life is acceptable and but its possible to charge from USB a well. Fits in my pocket. Spend the money on the Zen attenuating earbuds as well then go see the world. Included earbuds are only avarage. Love it. |
| Larryi5 Nov 29 (2006) 01:13PM | I took the measurments and tryed to see how big this thing would be to carry around and i got about the size of a Nintendo DS (orginal) without the flip screen (duh) and the control side with the A,B,X,Y, START and SELECT. same thinkness pretty much. But this just a guess, can anyone who has one take see how close of a guess this is? or have some picture comparing it with something else |
| nikk Dec 20 (2006) 09:23AM | i just orderd mine and it is awesome!!!! it supports like all video formats and audio files its all a person would ever need!!!! |
| JustaCafe
Dec 22 (2006) 03:16AM  | I have the venerable ZEN Vision 30GB. Ever since Creative pulled a fast one and disabled the FM record feature, and due to their lack of "creative-ity" in their software development (ZV Explorer), they could put the moon in the new ZV W, and I wouldn't buy it. Not with all the other great devices just coming out. |
| watchamacallit Mar 12 (2007) 08:52AM | zan vision screen size? take ur cd drive front cover and times the width by 2.... that shud be it... stunning graphics |
| JustGotTheZvw Mar 19 (2007) 02:26PM | hello guys..i just got the zvw and its sick. i was wondernig if u can watch tv on it..? thanks alot |
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